AMD's new budget APU with the graphics switched off gives you less cache for less cash

AMD has reportedly announced new «F» versions of its Ryzen 8000 Series desktop APU with the integrated GPU hacked out. Okay, the graphics is just disabled rather than physically removed, but the net result is the same: An APU with no graphics. Which essentially amounts to a CPU.

The new chip was spotted at a presentation in China, the Beijing AI PC Innovation Summit, by Twitter user HXL. Two new «F» chips were listed, the Ryzen 7 8700F and the Ryzen 5 8400F.

The single image from the presentation doesn't reveal too many details. However, the assumption is that this is a Phoenix APU with the graphics turned off. Based on the Ryzen 7 8700G APU with fully enabled graphics, the 8700F likely runs eight CPU cores.

There's no 8400G equivalent in AMD's current product range. The Ryzen 5 8500G has six cores, while the Ryzen 3 8300G has four cores. All of AMD's existing desktop 8000 series APUs clock up to around 5GHz, so these new «F» models probably peak at about that frequency.

No information on pricing has been revealed, but these are almost certainly budget chips. The AMD Ryzen 7 current sells for about $329. But arguably the more relevant comparison is the eight-core Ryzen 7 7700, which sells for $309 or thereabouts currently.

If the new 8700F significantly undercuts the plain old 7700, it'll be quite compelling, right? After all, in both cases you'll be getting eight AMD Zen 4 cores. 

Ryzen 7 8700F Ryzen 5 8400F China only?